When it was time for me to do the tufting on my headboard, I realized that the needles I had just wouldn't cut. I did have to take the needle through a piece of wood (drilled the hole), 5 inches of batting, and a piece of fabric to sew on the button. So I headed out to find a longer needle. I thought I would end up buying an upholstery needle but these dolls needles were better. They are really long sturdy. Made that tufting a snap.