This may be a bit too much for the casual , west coaster , however,,,,if in need of a perfectly fit, and made mens shoe or boot,,,,,, call W.S. Foster and set up an appointment and then a fitting or two (they will only take orders and have fittings twice a year in New York) this shop has been in business since the 1800's and is known only through word of mouth...really delicious mens shoes for the traditional in all of us. W.S. Foster London